[MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

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Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Tan » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:01 am

Got him down with both ball phases of only 5 waves iirc. So don't call for a wipe if you don't get that 6th wave.
6H on these tries though, with an off spec and an irregular one, granted. Still, 1 awesome D less. So don't despair if the raid is slightly imbalanced.

Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Syrah » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:43 pm

the Elegon encounter is a rather serious DPS check for your raid. Currently, in 10-man, you must utilise only 2 healers if you wish to succeed, and in 25-man you must use 5.
It certainly would be nice to succeed. So let's take the advice and just try it.

Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Fungi » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:30 am

My damage on the Energy Focus could be a lot higher than it is at the moment, but I was in a group that managed to handle the first 3 sparks without my help. This resulted in me only doing damage to these sparks if we were late at running to our position because an add had to be killed first. This is ofcourse up to everyone to see if it works, but we managed to kill all our sparks before they hit the pylon, so it worked for our group.

When I do dps the energy focus, I try to do this by using my cooldowns as much as possible. Use elemental freeze right as the focusses spawn, so I get 2 stacks of Fingers of Frost (instant icelance that crits for 200k when you're under influence of the buff), use my frost orb when there's adds up and point it at the boss, so I will get more FoF stacks. Use frost bomb on Elegon so I get a Brain Freeze proc for instant Frostfire bolt. If I have time, I dps Elegon to get a proc of either Icelance or Brain Freeze and I keep that till the energy focus spawns.

Basicly ... I try to use frostbolt as little as possible to kill the energy focus (too long a cast for too little damage on them focusses). If you see the stats Copper linked and check how I've divided my damage, you'll see that frostbolt is only a minor part of my damage done to them.

In short.. use as many cooldowns and instants as possible to deal as much damage as possible.

A.

Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Giruy » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:03 am

I'm going to change to Survival for this fight, pet bugs a lot by not staying on the Spark which is a large dps loss for a Beastmaster.

There's also a lot of running about for the pet on the 2nd phase of adds as well which isn't helping overall damage.

Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Flexie » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:36 am

To clarify - I mean stuff that cannot be fixed by reading up etc - stuff like latency, fps issues or sub-standard gear.

On a somewhat related note - dps potion usage:

Adjoint 11
Dijamod 10
Fungi 10
Rublupine 9
Flexie 9
Vitki 4

Mallion 9
Nihilatorka 5
Sapros 4

Gladion 10
Liria 10
Cengo 9
Elunara 9
Bizuneh 9
Míchael 3

No potion usage:

Arslan
Ro

Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Mahmoud » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:59 am

okay just speaking 4 warlocks here (affliction in particular) ... we have the capability 2 do good bursts on sparks, the thing is personally I was under the impression that spreading dots on all sparks is needed, this results in spending 1 extra gcd + secondary resource that can otherwise b spent on the bursting, which in turn depending on rng may hinder our damage abit starting from 4th spark ... I was doing it that way 4 all the times I have attended elegon and never had problems with killing the need number of balls with my grp... but the thing that occurred 2night, is that we had 2 affli locks on the same spot for 2 tries which resulted on not getting the desired number of them down on those 2 tries, ofc had we continued with this setup I wud have switched 2 only focusing on my assigned spark ...
ofc I know that me & ro got put together on the same grp as a try 2 fix a problem that was already there I'm just explaining affliction side of the story b4 some belief start spreading that our specc is not right 4 this particular encounter.

Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Copperknot » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:00 am

Damage against Energy Focus throughout whole raid: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... ?target=80

And broken down to attempts:

try 1: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 078&e=1266
try 2: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 509&e=2088
try 3: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 478&e=2917
try 4: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 168&e=3625
try 5: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 859&e=4102
try 6: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 220&e=5802
try 7: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 136&e=6313
try 8: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 598&e=6633 - Stupid pull no data don't even bother
try 9: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 838&e=7029
try 10: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ou5c ... 336&e=7534

Flexie I share your frustrations but they are not the comments that should be used, help point out others errors and help them achieve, excluding individuals is not the answer.

I urge everyone to analyse their performance the better we are as a raid on the balls the quicker he goes down phase 3 if it takes us longer through p2 then so be it as long as we can master those balls the buff we gain is ample compensation.

Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Erian » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:44 pm

Look at survivability too. Nearly all the time it won't be H fault. Dead dps = no dps

Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Flexie » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:44 pm

There is a simple solution for this - people, use your common sense, if you're undergeared or underperforming on this fight for whatever reason please consider not singing for it. It sucks, I know, but the reality is such that we need every ounce of dps we can get, people doing less damage that our tanks(or are being chased by them!) really aren't helping achieve this.

Re: [MOGU'SHAN VAULTS] - Elegon

by Giruy » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:42 pm

Note: Pets are separate from toon e.g. Overall data - Bizuneh 10318911, Skoll 8158709 = 18.4M

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